Talk:Rachel Corrie
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[edit]After reading the cited news article [5] ([1]), I believe the language used was misleading and misrepresenting the article. The article only reports the "attack" numbers from the judge. Judges are not finders of fact. If the judge stated a source, then that source should be cited. The citation is a news article, and does not say the judge was correct in their assertion. Therefore, it is reasonable and correct to represent the judge's remarks as their own, and not straight facts.
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[edit]Article seems well referenced, in the main. What is cited to Gannet News, though, doesn't have a URL, making it unverifiable, and the first paragraph in ==ISM accounts== has no references at all. I've tagged the former with {{Better ref needed}}
, and the latter with {{Citation needed}}
(and {{Where}}
). Bearing in mind the FAQ at the top of this page, please provide suitable references for these parts if you are able. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 11:32, 27 March 2024 (UTC).
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Please add:
End of July 2024, the Canada Well water facility in Rafah, which Rachel Corrie defended in the last month of her life, was blown up by the Israeli army. The water facility had been built in 1999 with funds from the Canadian International Development Agency. Israeli soldiers who destroyed the water system were carrying out a strategy explicitly articulated by the Netanyahu government. One soldier shared the video footage of the explosion on social media with the caption: "The destruction of Tel Sultan's water reservoir in honor of Shabbat."[1][2] Cheers, 91.54.5.25 (talk) 13:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- How is something that happened to a place over 20 years after Corrie's death relevant to her article, even if she was loosely associated with it? It seems more reasonable to mention her prior connection in an article on the facility, assuming it has notability. Jclemens (talk) 20:50, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Here you're saying it's loosely related to Corrie, in your edit summary where you removed my addition of sourced facts, you're saying it's not even tangentially related. It clearly is related. Two editors (at least) favour inclusion. Please revert. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 21:34, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Please don't confuse me being polite with being vague. There is no sufficient connection between this individual and an event happening in 2024 to justify inclusion in the article WP:COATRACK covers the inclusion of such unrelated material: by all means include a mention of Corrie there, if you want, but the other way around makes no sense. Do we include every event from every place in all future I-P conflicts where Corrie was known to have a connection with? Of course not. This article is about her, not about other events subsequent and unrelated to her death. Thus, while the facts are sourced, they simply aren't relevant to Corrie's article. Jclemens (talk) 22:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Here you're saying it's loosely related to Corrie, in your edit summary where you removed my addition of sourced facts, you're saying it's not even tangentially related. It clearly is related. Two editors (at least) favour inclusion. Please revert. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 21:34, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Ryan Grim, Younis Tirawi, Hind Khoudary: The IDF Just Destroyed a Key Rafah Water Facility Rachel Corrie Spent Her Last Month of Life Defending, Drop Site, 28 July 2024
- ^ Yaniv Kubovich: Israeli Army Commanders Gave Order to Blow Up Rafah Reservoir. IDF Suspects Breach of Int'l Law, Haaretz, 29 July 2024
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[edit]I removed content in this edit [1] which had been disputed previously. @Ekpyros, @Bastun. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 23:32, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
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