Talk:Korean War

Collapsible lists

Hi.

Just wanted to say that it'd be better if the collapsible medical and other support lists would be non-collapsible and expanded by default, as, otherwise, content is simply missed by the viewer at first glance and it would be better for visibility.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.71.16.173 (talk) 23:26, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Your comment is neither signed nor has a timestamp please sign it using tildes (~) UnsungHistory (Questions?) (Did I mess up?) 18:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Consistency of findings of National Defense Corps incident

As a neutral lay-reader:

The "National Defense Corps Incident" page says that "...and tens of millions of won was misappropriated to President Rhee Syngman's political fund." with a valid reference: [국민방위군 사건 (in Korean). National Archives of Korea. Archived from the original on 27 April 2011. Retrieved 20 July 2010.]

Yet on topic this page, under section "Starvation" it says Rhee Sygman was not involved. This is inconsistent or misleading. I suggest the quote above plus reference be added to the end of the relevant paragraph in this section.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.221.9.238 (talk) 18:31, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Your comment is neither signed nor has a timestamp please sign it using tildes (~),you also need a source wp:verifiability UnsungHistory (Questions?) (Did I mess up?) 18:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Typo in Belligerents list

In the Belligerents list, there's a typo right under "United Nations" that just says "Template:FlagU". Could someone with semi-protected editing privileges fix this so that it correctly lists the United States? Thanks. Rabbitish (talk) 07:38, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Done. Mztourist (talk) 08:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2024

change old South African Union flag to present Republic of South Africa Flag — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moswari (talk • contribs) 02:43, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

No, use flag contemporaneous with the event. Cinderella157 (talk) 10:53, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Korean war has extended.

We need to consider updating this wiki page- with the current affairs. The Korean war has never ended, with the Involvement of the North Korean troops. The Korean war has just relocated to Ukraine region. - A new country needs to be updated and Soviet Union must have a change considered to Russia.

As nothing has changed. However since the involvement of the Korean troops in support of Russia. This represents a huge problem for America and England - we never signed an armistice treaty with North Korea, We are still at war with North Korea. They may have changed uniforms into Russian but the Korean war has NOT officially ended. Anyone who went to help or volunteer might want to remember Kim Jung un and his people promised to do things to our people if chance presented it self. If Korean infantry or Chinese infantry engaged with people of Foreign nationals, regardless if they are in Ukrainian uniform. It gets more complicated.

(we are still at war with North. Korea) PilotBartram (talk) 06:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

As the article states, the Korean War ended with the Korean Armistice Agreement of 1953. This article is limited to the events of that period of conflict. It is not a platform for commentary on the ongoing events in Korea. The article on North Korea–South Korea relations deals with current and ongoing issues and events between the two Korean states. Mediatech492 (talk) 07:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Are you insane there is no Armistice agreement signed in 1953. There was a ceasefire. The Korean war never ended. Watch this, it says it right at the start [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tad8OjqYT7E

Re-read the korean war page it never ended. Why do I really have to become a history teacher? hmm basic stuff. 90.198.122.21 (talk) 12:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Please refer to the article Korean Armistice Agreement. Have a nice day. Mediatech492 (talk) 14:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Instead of just ignoring the fucking facts, accept there is no armistice for the Korean war. THERE is 2 korean wars. One ended, the second one never ended. The documentary and your own wiki page proves the war is still on-going. You have not grasp the basic principles watching the provided documentary and I would take it that Peter Snow and the BBC are more capable of fact checking than you are.

The Korean war NEVER ended. 90.198.122.21 (talk) 15:02, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

If you can't be civil, there is nothing to discuss. Childish profanity and insults will not help your case. Mediatech492 (talk) 16:44, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

from your own reference -

Like Syngman Rhee, North Korean leader Kim Il Sung also sought complete unification. The North Korean side was slow to support armistice talks and only on 27 June 1951 – seventeen days after armistice talks had begun – it did change its slogan of "drive the enemy into the sea" to "drive the enemy to the 38th parallel." North Korea was pressured to support armistice talks by its allies the People's Republic of China and the Soviet Union, whose support was vital to enabling North Korea to continue fighting.

Sought- seek, to obtain, but never having actually done it 90.198.122.21 (talk) 15:06, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

As per your own reference, "(...) However, the US secretary of state, John Foster Dulles, did not accommodate this attempt to achieve such a treaty. A final peace settlement has never been achieved." - original source here.

It is a technicality, since there is no on-going de facto war, however, it is important to note that on paper the war has not endend. Both Koreas also never stopped increasing their military capabilities and recent events present a relevant excalation in tensions which many experts are saying could lead to a new conflict. Kabagocan (talk) 19:51, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Date

25 June 1950 – 27 July 1953 (de facto)

(3 years, 1 month and 2 days)

25 June 1950 – present (de jure)

(74 years, 4 months and 1 day)

Note you will see it say 25 June 1950- present 74 years,4 months and 1 day the Korean war has kept going.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War 90.198.122.21 (talk) 12:05, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

A, read wp:civility and B, When was the last actual fighting? C, "25 June 1950 – present (de jure) (74 years, 4 months and 1 day)". Slatersteven (talk) 13:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Well if you read what I provided, It has happened already North Korean Troops have been confirmed in the Kursk region. They joined the Ukraine-Russia war. It is the Korean war just relocated to Ukraine-Russia. 90.198.122.21 (talk) 15:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Because the Korean war never actually finished, - The involvement of North Korean troops being confirmed by the US defense secretary. Which was confirmed by CNN, this extends the involvement of North Korea which is still in an active war. Into Korean war.

SO it proves the Korean war and actual fighting.

A North Korean soldier has defected to South Korea, according to the Yonhap news agency. The soldier was taken into custody in the northeastern county of Goseong early on Tuesday after crossing the border, Yonhap reported citing an unnamed military source.20 Aug 2024

[2]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/8/20/north-korean-soldier-defects-to-south-korea-report#:~:text=A%20North%20Korean%20soldier%20has,citing%20an%20unnamed%20military%20source.

[3]https://www.wsj.com/world/u-s-says-north-korean-troops-heading-to-russias-kursk-region-f36312db

[4]https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/24/europe/ukraine-north-korean-troops-spotted-kursk-intl-latam/index.html

By North Korean being in Kursk they've expanded the war PilotBartram (talk) 15:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Not unless RS says it does. Slatersteven (talk) 15:12, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

POTUS tops RS

(President of the United STATES)

[5]Russian soldiers complain about North Korean recruits in audio

The US Defense secretary doesn't speak unless the President Approves it.

So the President of the United states has approved the expansion of Korean war into Ukraine-Russia war PilotBartram (talk) 15:19, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

first us president to Visit North Korea country American is still at war with

[6]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB63oW_A1BI&pp=ygUYdHJ1bXAgdmlzaXRzIGtpbSBqb25nIHVu PilotBartram (talk) 15:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

YouTube is not an RS. Also read wp:synthesis, we need an RS actually saying that the Russia-Ukrnaine war is now an extension of the Koran war, not your wp:or. Slatersteven (talk) 15:19, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

ok So we have Reuters [7]https://www.reuters.com/world/north-korean-troops-russia-us-defense-secretary-says-2024-10-23/

US department of Defense government will that do?

[8]https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3943880/austin-confirms-north-korea-has-sent-troops-to-russia/

[9]Euro news

[10]Le monde french source

FYI - Those YouTube links are to the same RS as the links I provided. They are of the same news organizations. So stop trying to move the goal posts and accept it.

The Korean war has expanded. PilotBartram (talk) 15:23, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

OK, so, which of those sources say (in their words, quote please) this is an extension of the Korean war? untill you provide the quote my resposne is no and remains no until,. I say otherwise, I have spent enough time on this. Slatersteven (talk) 15:33, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Ok so you are someone who needs to be hit over the frying pan, so you can accept your been hit on the head with a frying pan.

"Austin Confirms North Korea Has Sent Troops to Russia

Oct. 23, 2024 | By Jim Garamone, DOD News | "

There is your quote - Any movement of North Korea troops into Russia to fight into Ukraine as in the Kursk region is an expansion of the Korean war.

layman's terms. Something so simplified you don't need it explained or put "right in front of you" to accept. You get taught when young how to tie your shoe laces, you've grown up and you no longer need it shown, you no longer need to go slow. You do it automatically. - So now in your 40s do you really need a hand-by-hand picture of how to tie your shoe laces?

Or do we really need to connect the dots here

As the Korean war has never ended.

Deployment of Korean troops into Russia to Fight in Ukraine, is an expansion of the war.

South Korea has offered to send weapons to Ukraine.

They have or are trying to re-locate the war into the East Europe conflict

The direct quote from "Austin Confirms North Korea Has Sent Troops to Russia" is your quote.

that means the Korean war has expanded.

Because of this one very simple FACT!

The people who have gone joined the International Legion for Ukraine, when fighting against the North Korean troops can be taken prisoner of war, as they have promised to do and bring them back to North Korea. Well they are Prisoners of war -well which war?

Take the bull by the horns- take the lead or get out of the way of someone who can like me. I am prepared to go over your head on this - I am doing the curtsey of telling you first.

I am right. PilotBartram (talk) 15:55, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

See Korean conflict.--Jack Upland (talk) 02:17, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

PilotBartram read the Talk page archives: we get a consensus?, the Korean War ever actually end?, of War?, end date, the article be rewritten in the present tense?, Still at War, Korean War is over now. Every few years someone like you comes along and argues that the Korean War is ongoing and is proven wrong. Your entire argument seems to be centered around the fact that North Korean troops may be in combat in Ukraine and that somehow that is part of the Korean War relocated to Ukraine which is simply untenable. When it is proven that North Korea is a combatant, they can be added to the Belligerents on the Russo-Ukrainian War page, but that has zero relevance to the Korean War or the Korean conflict. Mztourist (talk) 03:58, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Union of soviet socialist republics "unofficial"belligerent

can someone provide a reference to this? "Soviet Union (unofficial)" UnsungHistory (talk) 17:42, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Seeing nobody provide a source in months,I will remove it UnsungHistory (Questions?) (Did I mess up?) 22:43, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Saudi Role

According to a tweet by the South Korean embassy in Riyadh : Saudi Arabia was the country that provided supplies to South Korea in the war between South and North Korea that began on June 25, 1950. Source

I think Saudi Arabia should be included on “other support” 2001:16A4:6:334F:292E:E577:9A0D:35AE (talk) 13:44, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

We need a better source then a tweet. Slatersteven (talk) 13:46, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Saudi Arabia supported UNSC Resolution 83 according to Yearbook of the United Nations 1950, p. 225, but reading the following 3 pages that lists assistance offered to ROK, Saudi Arabia was not in the list. So Saudi Arabia probably didn't offer material assistance in 1950. It would be useful to check Yearbook 1951-3 to see if Saudi Arabia was included in later years. --Happyseeu (talk) 01:47, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

"Supported by" is deprecated (see template doc). The listing is for those engaged as combatants. The question is therefore moot. Cinderella157 (talk) 02:00, 24 November 2024 (UTC)